June 08, 2005

Wat the Heck???

Yeah, Wat the heck? Why cancel TNPCEE and ATA? Fine, its too much strain reading for so many zillion exams, blah blah blah blah! But hey, it still did test some analytical and reasoning skills! And it was only fair that there was a common exam to test the skills of students from the different boards!
Now what crap are these people thinking? Man, I can’t even imagine the plight of poor students of the CBSE,ISC and other boards. Up till last year, the state board syllabus was relatively easier. Now, that’s been made on par with the other boards! I am not judging, whether it is better this way or not; but now that from next year the entrance exam is going to be based on the new syllabus= CBSE portions, what’s their bloody problem, man?
Shit man, I’m so wild about this! Think of this- almost every other person scores centums in the four main subjects. So
1- How are they going to prepare the rank list? Based on alphabetical order? CRAP I say! So an Aaarabhi gets a seat in CEG while a Zaheer gets it in some lousy college? Just because one parent named his kid with an A for its first letter? THIS IS TERRIBLE!!! Pl…
2- What happens to improvement candidates? Will their last year marks be considered?
3- What about the talented students, who are artistically brilliant, but academically not so; who solely depended on their ATA( Aptitude test in Architecture) to boost their ranks and get a seat in Architecture?
4- What about those who’ve pursued under different boards and who, try as they might, somehow fail to clinch that elusive centum? People whose marks are around 91% and all which still is damn good in their boards but is not gonna fetch them a seat this time?
5- What if I just finished my boards with my meager 453 on 500? I would not be pursuing my passion? All my dreams of doing architecture... all the million castles I had built over the years… All shattered due to this lousy examination system! Oh God… I am so so blessed that it was ‘last year this period in my life’ and not ‘this year, this period in my life’!

Don’t I make at least remote sense? God… pl save all these students! Wat say you?

30 comments

Vivhyd said...

Hi there!! 1st time here thru ur comment @ Vani's.. (I guess u wud guess it anyway)..

I heard about this and I guess.. I echo ur thoughts... Agreed it is a strain.. but its not that the questions asked are out of this world as in IIT JEE.. if u know ur subject well academically then TNPCEE should be fair enough .. ofcourse with some analytical thinking in it..

This would create bookish thinking and how are they gonna handle 100 students with 100%? How about CBSE, ICSE, other state boards.. absolutely frightening .. this ruling.. and did ya see her stmt? rural folks are missing out itseems.. "crap"..

Agreed urban folks get more training centres etc .. but it the same with exams too.. so what about that? .. y not create two separate boards, two sets of colleges etc.. for urban and rural.. Oh how abt differences in urban itself (say Chennai and Madurai??) tht shd be solved too.. Stupidity ... again and again....

Vijay Ramamurthi said...

Hi,
came here hoppin from some other blog.
Ur profile is interesting "me is an awesome friend u all must have"

quite interesting..

Yeah abolishing tnpcee another classic example of our "elected" govts is destroying the country's future.

Vijay Ramamurthi

Arch Storm said...

hey its good that the TNPCEE was finally abolished! how many exams can a person write? when i was lookin for an undergrad school, i had to write a different exam for every state! in al i mus have written atleast some 10-15 exams! i was sooooooo sick!

* said...

Like any decision this has good and bad aspects:
Bad first - 1. CBSE students have been completely banished as 2nd class citizens 2. If for this reason you switch to HSC board and later your dad is transferred to another state, you will find it tough when you get into CBSE.

Good - 1. Will close down all the unscrupulous entrance coaching centers 2. Earlier open competition students had to face a life-and-death situation for both Board exam and entrance(pressure was comparitively less for other students). Now with entrance out of the way, the rules are equal for everyone - prove yourself in board exam.

Hawkeye said...

Sandhya,

lol! I agree.. the alphabetical tie-breakers are sickening. where is the logic in that.

Saranya Kishore said...

Yes,
No entrance exams sucks.

This is mostly to gain more votes from rural area people as they think the urban kids can go to Entrance exams classes to ace the exams.

Oh God, dont know where TN is going.

All crammers and rutters and mugging up gang will be Engrs and Doctors. Jeeez!

P said...

To Saranya Kishore:

All crammers and rutters and mugging up gang will be Engrs and Doctors. Jeeez!

--> What do you think happens now??

TNPCEE didn't make things even one bit. I was a stateboard student in 12th and it was sad to see my friends from the Central Board struggle with Chemistry and Physics. (the theory part)

I am glad they did away with the TNPCEE exam, looking back at it students from urban areas had unfair advantages over those from rural areas.

The one thing they could do is introduce a percentile system (different for CBSE and State board) that said its harder to score 90% in CBSE ( and consequently the numbers are lower ) than in state board.

Sheks said...

let's get into the act.the only person who would take this problem seriously is our president.Just visit http://presidentofindia.nic.in
and send him a mail.

Harish said...

What do I say?
I say it's unfair!!

How dare they subject me to this kinda test, and then do away with it after I've gone thru that torture!! If I suffer, everyone shud suffer!! :P

kiddin :) I have no clue what is gonna happen becoz of this move..

Sriram said...

Err.. Kiddo, what analytical and reasoning skills r u talkin about? I don't even recollect anything close to that in the TNPCEE exam ... believe me.. tis full of Hogwash.. and brimming with it too!

And I understand your anger with the "alphabetical" order thingy,, but I guess that won't happen. Interesting point on the rating system of different boards.. it is easier to get 99% in State boards, when compared to CBSE standards. Hopefully, these morons will come up with something really stupid that will inevitably let brilliant students miss the chance at joining a reputed college. Peace!

Praveen said...

If at all this thingy had been stopped, it should have been done next year. The reason JJ stated was that students and parents undergo a trauma coz of exams...now that the exam is done, things are already over..it is a pity it shud be cancelled after announcing that 98 is the top mark in TNPCEE and interviewing that person on TV!

I don see many people protesting against this coz its only the main brainy lot which would be affected and that is definitely not a majority. So the decision wud easily stay on.

I believe a common entrance test must be in place ONLY to give the students of all boards an equal chance. If you want to pursue higher education any college affiliated to Anna Univ is the bloody same. Only the Campus Recruitment makes a difference.

But whatever said, students dont have equal opportunities now and that is not appreciable.

Vani Viswanathan said...

ho!
guess all this hullaballoo was because most of the students flopped the TNPCEE math paper. one thing is that even with the TNPCEE, CBSE students didn't stand much chance coz the portions were kinda different for both the boards. well, atleast some CBSE students were diligent enough to try, study and crack the TNPCEE. now that these buggers have done away with this, our pitiable CBSE juniors gotta get 99.5% to get into even Anna univ. not much of a chance, eh? as one guy i know said, "ask CBSE students to bribe their ways into any college!" what the heck!
writing tens of entrance exams, acc. to me is total chaos. me wrote just two! :) why not have things like AIEEE made more effective???
harish...
hehe, unakku kozhuppu thaane? :P

JD said...

I didn't read the rest of the comments too closely, but my opinion is that the whole TNPCEE thing is bullshit. It really DOES NOT reach the standards of an entrance examination they make it out to reach. In my year, there was a question which asked the boiling point elevation constant of chloroform, with choices like 3.26, 3.25, 4.25 and whatever. If that doesn't convince you it's bullshit, nothing will. Well, maybe this: There was a question which asked the temperature at the centre of the sun, and there were options like 3.7 million Kelvin, and 3.7 million degrees Centigrade. Talk about the heights of pigheadedness. Analytical indeed. The guys who set the paper should be lined up and shot.

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

vivhyd... Well, wen rural students seem to be doing much better than their urban counterparts, i dunno why this unnecessary change, if not to woosome voters to their side!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Vijay Ramamurthi...
Thanks! and your blog title rocks...PayanangalMudivathillai... Wow...
And I totally agree with you! A government sould be more analyticalbefore coming to such a dumb decision!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Arch storm...
Agree about the no of exams point.But hey,come on, as Praveen said, this should have been introduced with effect from the next year.Unfair,I say!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

*...
Totally agree... Do you blog?

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Bharath... Yeah man... now date of birth is one judging criteria i heard.Makes me puke!!!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

SK ... Yes,already there is so li'lapplication oriented stuff doing the rounds... Now, this li'l test of 'talent' is also abolished... Sad, is too light a word!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Prashanth...
I don't agree aboutthe rural people having an unfair edge. but the percentile system is a great idea. Wish Anna university were hearing you...

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Sheks...Samma advice.Willmail him!
Harish...typical 'un' stylela answer panneetta...bangalorela irundhuttu can't expect u to actually sense the gravity of the situation. So you come here and feel it! ;)

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Sriram...
he he... guess u are right! Excuse this 'kiddo'! The alphabetical thingie is IRRITATING! And we in CBSE definitely find it more difficult to score!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Vans...
WE know how unfair it is di... But I guess, both of us, who never attempted this TNPCEE crap, shouldn't howl toomuch! ;)
And yeah... Harishkku romba Kozhuppu thaan! :)

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Praveen...
Aha! Silent assassin strikes again! Not bad! You seem to sound intelligent.
He he! Brilliant point there- should have been introduced only from next year...

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Deepak'JD'...
LOL! My god, you are right! Let's team up and carry out the killigs! Dumb people and dumber questions that they pick out from heaven knows where!!!

Sandhya Ramachandran said...

Just mailed the following to The President of India. Thanks Sheks!

Sir,This is highly ridiculous to have cancelled the TNPCEE exams with effect from this year .
First, It is unfair to the students from the CBSE/ISC streams and two- all the time and money spent on preparing for the exam and writing it, has gone waste!
Kindly look into the matter and try to improve the cheated students and parents.
I'm doing my B.Arch II year and though it does not directly affect me, i am burdened by the thought of 'What if it had happened last year to me?'
Let's see what happens!!!

Anonymous said...

A similar thought ...

http://visher.blogspot.com/2005/06/tnpcee-oh-my-dear-tnpcee.html

rAKeSH said...

really stupid the anna university with all due respect needs a kick in their butt. the tnpcee was the one thing that was the defining aspect for getting admittance in the top engineering colleges. without it any bloody fool who is capable of reproducing the text book can get a seat in the anna university come on guys intelligence needs to be appreciated...

* said...

No I do not have a blog. I got your ID from the Hindu :)

* said...

Good you have informed the Prez. Hope it gets through, if it does, he will definitely give something more than a bandaid fix

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